Note from Joan: This question is a composite of several similar emails I received on this topic from husbands. Sadly, this is a common concern. I hope this will be helpful to all of you with this problem.
Dear Joan:
My wife and I are 72 and she no longer wants sex with me. She doesn’t want to talk about it or fix it – she’s done. When I plead that I still desire her and want sex with her, she says I should find some other outlet. I don’t know if she means that, and even if she does, how would I go about it without further wrecking our relationship?
The History
We were high school sweethearts, married young, and had children right away. We grew up when sex was considered shameful and sex education barely existed. We were in love, and we fumbled around until we figured it out. But to be honest, I’m not sure whether she ever really enjoyed it, although she had orgasms from oral sex.
All I know is she really doesn’t enjoy it now. It’s not that I push intercourse – I’ve read enough of your columns to know that sex without penetration can be satisfying and complete. But she’s not interested in that, either. I’ve suggested sex toys — again, nope. She’ll sometimes give me a hand job or oral, but I don’t feel like she’s into it. If she’s “doing me” without enjoying it, I don’t enjoy it either. She knows I masturbate privately to porn and that doesn’t seem to bother her.
What to do?
I have tried to communicate, but it doesn’t lead anywhere. I miss the intimacy as much as the sex. I love her very much, and our relationship would be wonderful if we could bring sex back, but that’s not going to happen. Any advice?
— Sexless and Sad Husband
Joan responds:
I hear from many people with a similar background who are now experiencing sexual conflicts. Your upbringing shrouded sex in ignorance and shame. You married young, had children immediately, and now find yourselves as seniors wanting different things from your relationship, trying to figure out where to go from here. I sympathize.
I’m sorry that your wife has closed down not only your sexual relationship but all discussion about it. You seem to be doing the right things — trying to open communication, suggesting nonpenetrative sexual alternatives and sex toys, and taking care of your own needs solo.
You say she’s not open to discussion, but would she consider an appointment with a sex therapist, counselor, or relationships coach to help you navigate these issues? This could help the two of you communicate clearly about what you haven’t told each other as well as what you’ve revealed and guide you to a more satisfying connection.
One Expert’s Take
I consulted sex and relationships coach Charlie Glickman, Ph.D., who has worked with couples in your situation. He points out that there’s a lot you don’t know about how your wife feels. What’s going on for her that she doesn’t want sex with you? Is there a physical reason? Is there resentment about your sexual demands over the years? Does she feel that her desires and needs weren’t being met? Is this new or longstanding? Maybe for her, the issue isn’t sex as much as an underlying problem in your marriage. “If there’s a deeper relationship issue here,” says Glickman, “it’ll bubble up somewhere else.” Sexual conflicts are rarely just about sex.
What to say
Glickman suggests that you ask your wife the following questions and really focus on her replies:
- You say you don’t want sex and you don’t want to figure out how to change that. When did that start for you? What patterns or habits in our relationship contribute to that?
- You told me to find another sexual outlet. What boundaries or agreement would make that okay for you? If I give my time and attention to someone else, if I spend money on dates or a hotel room, will that work for you? How will you think you’ll feel if I do that?
- If I do find another sexual outlet, how much will you want to know about that? Do you want me to be discreet and not reveal anything (“don’t ask, don’t tell”)?
- Separate from sex, I want to feel intimate and connected with you. Is that something you’re wanting? What kinds of nonsexual touch and other forms of emotional intimacy would you be open to?
Need Help?
If it’s difficult to discuss these issues on your own, working with a coach or therapist will make the conversation easier and teach you the skills you need for more productive communication.
Some couples create successful “companionate marriages,” meaning they love each other, they’re best friends and companions, but sex is not part of their relationship. I know that’s not your first choice, but are there ways that you could still feel intimate without sex, maybe with regular cuddling or massages?
I know this is hard. I hope you find a solution that will make both of you feel nurtured and satisfied in your marriage. I wish you the best.
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Joan Price has been Senior Planet’s “Sex at Our Age” columnist since 2014. She is the author of four self-help books about senior sex, including her award winners: “Naked at Our Age: Talking Out Loud about Senior Sex” and “Sex after Grief: Navigating Your Sexuality after Losing Your Beloved.” Visit Joan’s website and blog for senior sex news, views, tips, and sex toy reviews from a senior perspective. Subscribe to Joan’s free, monthly newsletter.
COMMENTS
9 responses to “Ask Joan: What To Do When Your Wife Says No”
dear ?Joan ; I have not had sex in over 15 years did not have much during marrage, I have never cheated on her though she cheated on me; maybe I am not good looking or something like that; more then once I have thought of taking my life I am now 67 ; maybe it is time I donot know , some say I am good looking others say no I lost part of right brain from a motorcycle wreck. That is why I believe I get depressed from, I realy do not want to lose her, good at cleaning house, cooking meals,l
Terrry, you need a therapist. Depression is treatable. You won’t find a woman who just wants to cook and clean for you and have sex with you,. Women appreciate being treated well, however handsome or not you may be. If you are thinking of taking your life, please talk to a professional, that is serious. You can always hire a housekeeper, a sex worker, but what are you going to bring to the table? Having regular sex is not a substitute for having a good relationship.
The first question I’d ask her is, Do you love me?
If she doesn’t, there’s nothing left to say. You might as well move out.
But if she does, she owes it to you to tell you her reasons for changing the terms of the marriage, even if it’s uncomfortable for her.
Yes, do get a counselor involved. Maybe it will be easier for her to speak frankly to a woman therapist privately before she can be honest with you.
This is a great conversation starter! As a woman in a 37 year marriage, I’d also like to mention the physical issues that women can experience in aging, which affect sexual activity. I’ve had years of UTIs along with mild bladder prolapse. This, along with hormonal changes, has required frequent/frank communication. We have an active sex life, but it doesn’t look the same as when we were younger. I think the goals of sex are varied, but the result should be intimacy and satisfaction for both.
Those who say their partner does not want sex should consider if they’re still physically attractive and in proportion with clothes on and off. Do they maintain good hygiene, dental care, grooming? There may be physical issues separate from “dryness” such as arthritis, that make performing difficult. Or unresolved lifestyle differences, including finances, that build resentment that can turn someone off.
Dr Glickman said,”Maybe for her, the issue isn’t sex as much as an underlying problem in your marriage.” Distinct possibility. It’s very difficult to have sex with your husband when you’re hurt and mad. Been there. Over the years he became more and more controlling and demeaning. If I spoke up, he got mad and was hell to live with for weeks. I gave up and just put with it because by then we were in our 60s. He actually told me once that any problems in our marriage were my fault.
I think its the Men -A -Pause . A Pause from husband and sex , possibly a breach of the marriage vows as well. Also i notice a lot of older women avoid discussing it, but there are a lot who are looking for it. Sad thing is that you find it elsewhere and no point discussing it as that will bring more grief. Just say, look dear wife, I’d better just find sex and comfort elsewhere then leave it a month and say nothing. if no discussion or other, just proceed as you have said the facts A
I’m in the same boat. There also seems to be an additional area that is not discussed anywhere from what I can see. I’ve asked my wife if she’s spoken with some of her friends about this. She tells me she has and that all her woman friends feel the same way. Woman are normalizing this “no more sex” issue and giving permission for others to do the same. I don’t know how valid this is, but when groups of people feel the same way, it’s a hard nut to crack.
I think its the Men -A -Pause . A Pause from husband and sex , possibly a breach of the marriage vows as well. Also i notice a lot of older women avoid discussing it, but there are a lot who are looking for it.
Sad thing is that you find it elsewhere and no point discussing it as that will bring more grief.
Just say, look dear wife, I’d better just find sex and comfort elsewhere then leave it a month and say nothing.
if no discussion or other, just proceed as you have said the facts
A
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