Sex & Relationships

Ask Joan: Not Broken!

This month, Joan Price, our Senior Planet Sex Columnist, advises a spouse who says “No.”  

Dear Joan:

I read with great sorrow the husband’s anxiety over his wife’s lack of interest in sex in your column, “What To Do When Your Wife Says No.” I am in my mid-sixties, with a husband who communicates stridently about my “unwillingness” to have sex. He accuses me of desiring someone else or hating him. He insists there must be something wrong, and why won’t I fix it?

The fact is, I have no desire, no libido, no emotional response to sexual scenes in a movie, none. I am busy with the farm, the animals, the home, and my grandchildren. I am happy and content — except for dealing with the hurt and negativity of a husband who still wants sex when I don’t.

For 36 years, he had a faithful sex partner. We had a lot of sex. I never faked an emotion. I tried things that were outside my comfort zone. But I have no desire now — not physical, not emotional, nothing. And I don’t miss it. Why does that make me wrong, or sick, or heartless?

“…I have no desire now — not physical, not emotional, nothing. And I don’t miss it. Why does that make me wrong, or sick, or heartless?”

We are going on 40 years of marriage. I gave him wonderful children and grandchildren whom I interact with weekly, often daily. I like who I am. I’m relieved to be out of the grip of hormones. I love my husband dearly, but I am not interested in sex — not with him, not with anyone. I won’t pretend to be.

Broken?

We’ve talked about options for getting his needs met elsewhere, but he is not interested. He tells me I am “broken” and need to get help. I am not broken. I am fulfilling the next phase of maternal nurturing, caring for and loving my grandchildren.

With all the columns you publish from husbands who want their wives to be more sexual, I thought you needed this point of view.

– Not Broken

Joan responds:

Thank you for this articulate perspective. I get many requests for advice from men who are distraught and lonely because their wives have closed down sex and won’t talk about it, and sometimes vice versa.

I also hear from women whose husbands force, blame, or shame them into having sex that they don’t want. But this may be the first time I’ve received such a thoughtful, well-reasoned, and convincing explanation from someone who loves her husband but no longer wants sex — and is absolutely satisfied with that decision.

My column’s purpose is to help people enjoy better sex and more fulfilling relationships. Just as sex is a choice, no sex is also a choice.

My column’s purpose is to help people enjoy better sex and more fulfilling relationships. Just as sex is a choice, no sex is also a choice. Many people are happy in “companionate marriages,” which means that they love each other, are best friends, and want to stay together — and sex is not part of their relationship.

However, although a companionate marriage is the relationship you want, it’s not the one you have. You’re happy without sex, but your husband is not. He doesn’t feel desired or loved. He accuses you of wanting someone else or hating him. “He insists there must be something wrong, and why won’t I fix it?”

I’m not trying to talk you out of your well-reasoned decision. People change with age. We may find that something that used to be very important isn’t anymore. But if both people in a couple don’t change in the same direction, there’s conflict. I worry about the state of your marriage from your husband’s point of view.

What Options?

Is there any sensual intimacy at all: cuddling and kissing in bed? Exchanging massages? Would you be willing to hold him while he pleasures himself? I acknowledge that these options might not satisfy either of you. You might be anxious that he’d want the sensuality to lead to sex, or he might find body contact without sex even more frustrating.

You’re willing to release your husband to pursue sex elsewhere. He doesn’t want that — he wants you. Sex was an important part of your relationship, and for him, it still is. If he were writing me, I’d advise him that you’ve made it clear that sex is no longer part of your marriage.

Sex with someone else isn’t his first choice, but it may be his only choice, other than his own hand and preferred erotic stimulation. You’ve explained clearly that you don’t want to “fix” what isn’t broken. As sex columnist Dan Savage would put it, a sexless marriage is now the “price of admission” for being with you.

Can he be happy married to you without sex? I don’t know. Can he summon a spirit of adventure and enjoy sex with other partners: a friend with benefits, casual encounters, sex workers, or an additional partner for both emotional and sexual needs? Do you want to work out an arrangement with him about outside partners, or just not know? I think for the emotional health of your marriage, a session with a sex therapist would be helpful — not to change your decision, but to work out an agreement that will satisfy both of you, if that’s possible.

Thank you for your willingness to present a side we don’t usually hear. I welcome reader comments.

YOUR TURN

“Not Broken” presents a side not often heard in “Ask Joan.”  I welcome reader comments.

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Joan Price has been Senior Planet’s “Sex at Our Age” columnist since 2014. She is the author of four self-help books about senior sex, including her award winners: “Naked at Our Age: Talking Out Loud about Senior Sex” and “Sex after Grief: Navigating Your Sexuality after Losing Your Beloved.” Visit Joan’s website and blog for senior sex news, views, tips, and sex toy reviews from a senior perspective. Subscribe to Joan’s free, monthly newsletter.

COMMENTS

21 responses to “Ask Joan: Not Broken!

  1. I am a woman 10 years older than the writer and married for over 50 years. I love my husband dearly, and when things changed physically for both of us we figured it out. Do I have spontaneous hot crazy sex anymore? No, but the decision to read Joan’s book together and decide that we would make this work (make a date, anticipation, etc) has worked for us and has caused us to become even closer. The medical and emotional benefits of sex also shouldn’t be overlooked. It’s good for us!

  2. My wife closed to door on sex and all forms of intimacy fifteen years ago. I was deeply hurt for years. I would try again now and then, but nothing and no explanation. She gave me a “free pass” to have sex elsewhere, but “women don’t like married men. I can’t find a sex buddy. Don’t want a sex worker. I’m down to divorce at 70.

  3. Dick July 26/24: Wow! Such diversity of responses. I’m older than my wife, who is a similar age as “Not Broken”….and I have sympathy for both of them. I have the same concern as her husband and ‘I love my wife a lot’. I disagree with some of the (men) about wifey being selfish…she appears to be honest. Other than Joan’s advice, I would add that ‘PIV’ may not be the primary ‘frustration’ for hubby, because the absence of genuine ‘intimacy’ is synonymous with love and sexuality.

  4. I’m a sexologist & feel just like “Not Broken”. I never expected this!! Like NB, I feel like I’m not at the mercy of my hormones anymore. I’m in charge of my life’s direction. Like readers suggested, I had sex anyway – out of a desire to please my partner and be a loving spouse. I really did not want it – I mean, the body doesn’t lie. This had a cost. It’s been a year since I last said yes. I needed to have my “no” respected & feel loved for me. Kissing is feeling ok, so we’ll see…!

  5. Perhaps if they did things together, take care of the farm, things with the grandchildren together. Then enjoying things together as a couple as well as helping each other, maybe laughing, fun things that they can do together. That could lead to more intimacy in their relationship in a positive way which may then lead to seeing each other the way that they used to. Enjoy your partner and laugh at silly stuff. My husband is gone, I would love to have the option to try these things again!

  6. I can relate. I’m older than my husband and like someone else commented I have unresolved resentment that goes back years. I’ve asked him to go to counseling (no to everything) get a jacuzzi type bathtub, take dance lessons, those are a couple things I think would help me feel loved & loving. He tells me he has no interest either which I don’t believe. I think now he does himself. I’ve told him100x if he treated me like he loves me like in front of other people but I’ve always felt invisible.

  7. “I am busy with the farm, the animals, the home, and my grandchildren. I am happy and content”
    Sorry Joan, I disagree with the ease that you let this ‘so called’ loving partner off the hook. To me, the second sentence tells the story. A major rift occurred in our marriage when my partner became too busy doing community ‘good works’ and ignored a partner with whom she had enjoyed some pretty nice years. Take some time out from ‘ being busy’, and rekindle that love….and passion…and OMG…SEX

    1. What “hook” is she supposed to be on? You seem to be asserting (as so many men have for so many centuries) that it’s her duty to have sex with her husband whether she wants it or not. Actually, you seem to saying that it’s her duty to want it. Human bodies just don’t work that way. If she doesn’t want it, she doesn’t want it.
      Joan advises her to see a therapist with her husband so they can find a loving compromise that works for them both. You advise her to be a different person.

      1. Sorry Alison, but I didn’t mean to imply that it is a women’s ‘ duty ‘. Nothing is more worse than being a ‘dutiful ‘ partner. A man can’t fake it….a women can, and that is even worse. A charade ! An insult. What is missing is the desire, and one wonders why that desire has waned.
        “But I have no desire now — not physical, not emotional, nothing. And I don’t miss it.” Those last 5 words, to me, a very telling. I wonder if she ever did. Desire I mean, not duty. In any case, how sad.

  8. I appreciate Not Broken’s eloquent explanation of their couples situation. Joan’s response to gave a complete listing of many of the things that the couple could try. Not Broken could try writing out a list of the suggestions in in Joan’s reply. After thinking about each suggestion, the couple could talk to a sex therapist about their situation. Not Broken doesn’t need to change but the situation does.
    Many of us would be interested in learning about how the situation was handled.

  9. I cannot thank “Not Broken” enough for helping me understand where my wife is in her life. She’s happy in our life. Our children are grown and doing well. And she’s fulfilled in her career. But as far as sex goes she said that she just doesn’t see me that way anymore.
    Do I wish things were different? I would like to experience the pleasure and connection we’ve had for most of our 40 years together. I’ve been thinking that she’s responsible for my sexual happiness. She’s not, I am.

  10. Hi, I reread “Not Brokens’ post and I noticed these phrases “I gave him”…children, grandchildren, years of good sex, experimental and otherwise and fidelity. She spends time with “her” children and grandchildren (not “ours”.) These phrases, along with the loss of desire, makes me wonder if she’s done with her husband in general. His presence might be convenient in her life set-up – but not a joy. She “loves him dearly” but…..is there a deeper issue? Resentment? Unspoken conflict?

  11. Joan, thank you for your honest response, there are many alternatives. Sadly, I hear this more often than I would like. But it is still always sad to hear about these situations when with current medicine, there are solutions.

    Decades ago, I read: “Sex is only 10% of a relationship, but when there is an issue, it becomes 90% of the problem.” Since we are living into our 90’s, sexual issues need to be addressed.

  12. I agree that working with a sex therapist may help this couple create a mutually satisfactory agreement. As I see it, that would include the wife remaining celibate by choice and the husband finding sexual pleasure with one or more other partners. Essentially, their monogamous marriage would become an open relationship. That would be a common and healthy resolution.

    1. Sorry Mac….the husband, in my mind, wants his wife….not a piece of tail. He doesn’t just want sex, he wants the woman who has turned to “I am busy with the farm, the animals, the home, and my grandchildren. I am happy and content” rather than considering the feelings of the guy she( so called ) loves.
      Joan’s response includes ” used to be very important isn’t anymore. ” It is VERY IMPORtANT….so she should at least, make an effort.

      1. If he “wants her,” does that mean he loves her, and if so, why doesn’t he care about her feelings and what she wants? Why does everyone side with the person, (usually the man, but not always) who wants to have sex, as opposed to considering the feelings of the person who no longer wants to have sex? FYI, I am a woman (67) and I want to have sex, but not only can my husband rarely have sex, when he does, he doesn’t do any of the things I would like to do. He just wants PIV and be done.

    2. She doesn’t think she is broken but she is, unfortunately this IA a very real scary situation but altho the husband does not want he needs to accept the marriage is over , divorce her and move on

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